| [FIXED] [0.8.7] Game won't start | |
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Edulf Lord
Posts : 21 Join date : 2016-08-10 Age : 33 Location : Solhaven
| Subject: [FIXED] [0.8.7] Game won't start Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:30 am | |
| OS: Win XP SP3 Just downloaded the latest version released today. Unfortunately, the game crashed while attempting to start up even though I uninstalled previous version and deleted "The Protectors" folders in Documents. Game window/screen never came out and is not shown as task at all. However, it is shown on processes for a few seconds and then is gone! P.S. I am able start 0.8.6 just fine though that version tends to crash randomly while in battle. | |
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Patrick_the_Winekiller Devourer of bugs
Posts : 1136 Join date : 2012-01-04
| Subject: Re: [FIXED] [0.8.7] Game won't start Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:48 am | |
| Don't forget to run the game in compatibility mode. Right click The Protectors.exe -> properties-> compatibility -> check run in compatibility for windows xp sp2. Also run as admin. | |
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Edulf Lord
Posts : 21 Join date : 2016-08-10 Age : 33 Location : Solhaven
| Subject: Re: [FIXED] [0.8.7] Game won't start Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:54 am | |
| As I am already using Windows XP as my operating system, I do not require compatibility settings to run the game. I could start 0.8.6 without any compatibility settings whatsoever but not 0.8.7. | |
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Patrick_the_Winekiller Devourer of bugs
Posts : 1136 Join date : 2012-01-04
| Subject: Re: [FIXED] [0.8.7] Game won't start Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:13 am | |
| Try deleting the Videos folder see if that helps. | |
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Edulf Lord
Posts : 21 Join date : 2016-08-10 Age : 33 Location : Solhaven
| Subject: Re: [FIXED] [0.8.7] Game won't start Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:39 am | |
| I've deleted the video folder under [Program Files/The Protectors], but the game still won't start.
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Edulf Lord
Posts : 21 Join date : 2016-08-10 Age : 33 Location : Solhaven
| Subject: Re: [FIXED] [0.8.7] Game won't start Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:38 pm | |
| I've checked the Startup.log under [My Documents/The Protectors] which is created every time I attempted to launch this game.
The log seems to show the game crashed at "Initializing Resources". | |
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Patrick_the_Winekiller Devourer of bugs
Posts : 1136 Join date : 2012-01-04
| Subject: Re: [FIXED] [0.8.7] Game won't start Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:18 pm | |
| Sounds like a faulty install. Anyway, a player suggested: - Quote :
- I have two way for you, the first is press the Alt+enter when as fast as the picture become black, you might enter, and change the resolution for your computer.
The second is completely delete the 0.86, and use the Regedit.exe to delete the old 'The protectors' file. GOOD luck to you^^ | |
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Patrick_the_Winekiller Devourer of bugs
Posts : 1136 Join date : 2012-01-04
| Subject: Re: [FIXED] [0.8.7] Game won't start Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:39 pm | |
| I get the same startup log if i am not running in compatibility mode for winxp SERVICE PACK 2 | |
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Edulf Lord
Posts : 21 Join date : 2016-08-10 Age : 33 Location : Solhaven
| Subject: Re: [FIXED] [0.8.7] Game won't start Sat Dec 24, 2016 10:13 pm | |
| - Patrick_the_Winekiller wrote:
- Sounds like a faulty install. Anyway, a player suggested:
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- I have two way for you, the first is press the Alt+enter when as fast as the picture become black, you might enter, and change the resolution for your computer.
The second is completely delete the 0.86, and use the Regedit.exe to delete the old 'The protectors' file. GOOD luck to you^^ The 1st method is not applicable to me as the game window or screen did not appear at all. Only the process appear on task manager, but it last for a few seconds only. I tried the 2nd method which I've deleted all references of The Protectors in registry and folders that sadly did not work also. | |
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Edulf Lord
Posts : 21 Join date : 2016-08-10 Age : 33 Location : Solhaven
| Subject: Re: [FIXED] [0.8.7] Game won't start Sat Dec 24, 2016 10:22 pm | |
| - Patrick_the_Winekiller wrote:
- I get the same startup log if i am not running in compatibility mode for winxp SERVICE PACK 2
I am already running Windows XP SP3. As for compatibility mode, only win 95, win 98, win nt 4.0 and win 2000 are available for my OS. | |
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Patrick_the_Winekiller Devourer of bugs
Posts : 1136 Join date : 2012-01-04
| Subject: Re: [FIXED] [0.8.7] Game won't start Sat Dec 24, 2016 11:34 pm | |
| Try any of those, maybe they will work. | |
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Edulf Lord
Posts : 21 Join date : 2016-08-10 Age : 33 Location : Solhaven
| Subject: Re: [FIXED] [0.8.7] Game won't start Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:45 am | |
| I am able to launch the game with win 98 among the choices of compatibility modes I have, but the screen is all black except the video part and is also not full screen. I am starting to miss 0.8.6 | |
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Edulf Lord
Posts : 21 Join date : 2016-08-10 Age : 33 Location : Solhaven
| Subject: Re: [FIXED] [0.8.7] Game won't start Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:39 am | |
| The 1st suggestion to alt-enter the black screen for this win 98 compatibility mode did not work either which I did tried many times. | |
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Edulf Lord
Posts : 21 Join date : 2016-08-10 Age : 33 Location : Solhaven
| Subject: Re: [FIXED] [0.8.7] Game won't start Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:42 am | |
| The parts that work with win 98 compatibility mode are the intro video and the thumbnail video on the right of menu buttons. Rest is all black. | |
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Joe the Bartender Keeper of Balance
Posts : 510 Join date : 2014-08-20 Location : The Candlekeep Inn
| Subject: Re: [FIXED] [0.8.7] Game won't start Sun Dec 25, 2016 2:04 am | |
| Does it give a crash message or does it just disappear?
Could there be any external influences, such as antivirus software?
Have you got fully updated drivers? | |
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Edulf Lord
Posts : 21 Join date : 2016-08-10 Age : 33 Location : Solhaven
| Subject: Re: [FIXED] [0.8.7] Game won't start Sun Dec 25, 2016 2:59 am | |
| It just close by itself as a process (no task or window ever appears). No message.
The only sort of antivirus I have is Malwarebytes Premium and I am sure it's not cause by this as I have tested before, and I also could start and play 0.8.6 without much trouble except occasional random crashes but that another story.
With 0.8.7, I am not even able to start the game on my native Windows XP like I could with 0.8.6. Although by using win 98 compatibility mode, the situation is slightly better as the game could be started, but everything is black except videos(intro and embed).
My drivers are updated enough to run anything that are supposed to run on XP with SP3. Maybe because 0.8.7 is designated for XP SP2 and not SP3. Perhaps a patch could help if this the case since my XP is SP3. | |
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jalonsdale Knight
Posts : 13 Join date : 2016-03-14 Age : 40 Location : Maine, USA
| Subject: TPC WinXP / Comp Patch Sun Dec 25, 2016 6:40 am | |
| Some features may require windows XP Compat, but expect Windows Vista or later. A good example of this kind of stuff may involve things like TPC and DDO, DDO however is a published game, while TPC is still beta. Still however bugs like these still exist within the windows environment. As a heads up just because it says windows xp compatability in a higher system, doesn't mean windows xp it's self can run it.
I can run a VBOX of Windows XP, see if that will help trouble shoot it, but give me some time on this matter as a disk of Windows XP is indeed hard to come by. | |
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Patrick_the_Winekiller Devourer of bugs
Posts : 1136 Join date : 2012-01-04
| Subject: Re: [FIXED] [0.8.7] Game won't start Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:31 am | |
| What does the startup log say when you successfully enter the game via win 98? | |
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Edulf Lord
Posts : 21 Join date : 2016-08-10 Age : 33 Location : Solhaven
| Subject: Re: [FIXED] [0.8.7] Game won't start Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:14 pm | |
| - Patrick_the_Winekiller wrote:
- What does the startup log say when you successfully enter the game via win 98?
Here's the log. It looks okay to me but the game screen is pure black except video. --------------- Initializing files & directories Reading Help Status Reading Advanced Options Reading Standard Options Checking hero data file Files have been successfully initialized -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Initializing Comms System Comms System been successfully initialized -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Initializing Resources Adding Terrain Packs Adding: Caverns.xcr Adding: Chasm.xcr Adding: Desert Cliffs.xcr Adding: Desert Coast.xcr Adding: Desert.xcr Adding: Dirt.xcr Adding: DirtMountains.xcr Adding: Grass Coast.xcr Adding: Grass.xcr Adding: High Dirt.xcr Adding: High Grass.xcr Adding: Ice.xcr Adding: Jungle.xcr Adding: Lava.xcr Adding: Marsh.xcr Adding: Mountains.xcr Adding: Paving.xcr Adding: Platform.xcr Adding: Pyramid.xcr Adding: Rock Cliffs.xcr Adding: Rock Coast.xcr Adding: Rock.xcr Adding: Snow Coast.xcr Adding: Snow.xcr Adding: W3AncientTemple.XCR Adding: Water.xcr Adding: ZExtoriasCave.xcr Adding: ZZWBC1 Terrain.xcr Adding: ZZWBC2 Terrain.xcr Adding Feature Packs Adding: AncientFoliage.xcr Adding: AncientTemple.xcr Adding: CaveExtorias.xcr Adding: CavernsFeatures.XCR Adding: Civil.xcr Adding: Coastal.xcr Adding: DeadTrees.xcr Adding: DesertTrees.xcr Adding: GrassPlants.xcr Adding: GrassTrees.xcr Adding: KingStuff.xcr Adding: Rocks.xcr Adding: Ruins.xcr Adding: SnowMisc.xcr Adding: SnowTrees.xcr Adding: War.xcr Adding: YMisc.xcr Adding: ZAudio.xcr Adding: ZEffects.xcr Adding Side Packs Adding: Barbarians.xcr Adding: BarbariansVoicesEn.xcr Adding: Boats.xcr Adding: BoatsVoicesEn.xcr Adding: Daemons.xcr Adding: DaemonsVoicesEn.xcr Adding: DarkDwarves.xcr Adding: DarkDwarvesVoicesEn.xcr Adding: DarkElves.xcr Adding: DarkElvesVoicesEn.xcr Adding: DragonRace.xcr Adding: DragonRaceVoicesEn.xcr Adding: Dragons.xcr Adding: DragonsVoicesEn.xcr Adding: Dwarves.xcr Adding: DwarvesVoicesEn.xcr Adding: Empire.xcr Adding: EmpireVoicesEn.xcr Adding: Fey.xcr Adding: FeyVoicesEn.xcr Adding: Fliers.xcr Adding: FliersVoicesEn.xcr Adding: Heroes.xcr Adding: HeroesVoicesEn.xcr Adding: HighElves.xcr Adding: HighElvesVoicesEn.xcr Adding: Knights.xcr Adding: KnightsVoicesEn.xcr Adding: LairsShops.XCR Adding: Minotaurs.xcr Adding: MinotaursVoicesEn.xcr Adding: Misc.xcr Adding: MiscVoicesEn.xcr Adding: Orcs.xcr Adding: OrcsVoicesEn.xcr Adding: PatBuildings.xcr Adding: PatCharacters.xcr Adding: PatCharactersVoicesEn.xcr Adding: Plaguelords.xcr Adding: PlagueLordsVoicesEn.xcr Adding: Resources.xcr Adding: Siege.xcr Adding: SiegeVoicesEn.xcr Adding: Ssrathi.xcr Adding: SsrathiVoicesEn.xcr Adding: Swarm.xcr Adding: SwarmVoicesEn.xcr Adding: Temples.xcr Adding: TemplesVoicesEn.xcr Adding: TowersWalls.xcr Adding: Undead.xcr Adding: UndeadVoicesEn.xcr Adding: WoodElves.xcr Adding: WoodElvesVoicesEn.xcr Adding Effect Packs Adding: Effects1.xcr Adding: PatchEffects.xcr Adding GameSpeech.xcr Adding Assets\SoundFX.xcr Adding Quest.xcr Adding Graphics.xcr Adding Powerups.xcr Adding Panels.xcr Adding GText.xcr Adding Portraits.xcr Resources have been successfully initialized -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Initializing the graphics system Selected graphics mode 800x600x32 Opening up in windowed mode Main Window has been created Initializing sound system Opening channels Checking for 3d provider Initializing music system Sound system complete Read in XCG file Initialize DirectDraw Creating DirectDraw Object Get Exclusive mode Set Display mode Create Primary Surface Create Back Buffer This surface is a 565 surface Initialize DirectDraw Gamma DirectDraw has been successfully opened Setting gamma levels -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Initializing the interface system Using the following language directory: Interface system successfully initialized -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Initializing the font system Font system successfully initialized Initial file caching Defining font families Performing state initialization Task switching is OFF Video System Initialized Particle Paths Initialized Game Timer Initialized Options Data Initialized Ability Data Initialized Attitude Configuration Initialized Item Manager Initialized Timer Event Initialized Enter through main menu... Play video first Playing Logo.bik from
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Edulf Lord
Posts : 21 Join date : 2016-08-10 Age : 33 Location : Solhaven
| Subject: Re: [FIXED] [0.8.7] Game won't start Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:19 pm | |
| - jalonsdale wrote:
- Some features may require windows XP Compat, but expect Windows Vista or later. A good example of this kind of stuff may involve things like TPC and DDO, DDO however is a published game, while TPC is still beta. Still however bugs like these still exist within the windows environment. As a heads up just because it says windows xp compatability in a higher system, doesn't mean windows xp it's self can run it.
I can run a VBOX of Windows XP, see if that will help trouble shoot it, but give me some time on this matter as a disk of Windows XP is indeed hard to come by. But I could run vanilla WB3 and 0.8.6 just fine. Something broke or maybe a new feature prevent me from playing running 0.8.7. The funny thing is I could launch the game using Win 98 or even Win 95 Compatibility mode surprisingly.
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Edulf Lord
Posts : 21 Join date : 2016-08-10 Age : 33 Location : Solhaven
| Subject: Re: [FIXED] [0.8.7] Game won't start Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:50 pm | |
| After looking at the log again, I finally found the reason for the black screen when using win 98 compatibility. It's because 0.8.7 for some reasons only supports up to 1024x768 with 16bit display. After downgrading my desktop resolution from 1280x800 with 32bit to this and using win 98 compatibility mode, I was able to run the game properly.
Here's the part of the log which I have not posted previously that reveals the cause. Also for some reasons, the game incorrectly identify my desktop res as 1280x742.
OS: Windows 98 DirectX: DirectX 9.0 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Starting Warlords Battlecry III Parsing the command line: Initializing string library Check the CD is in the drive -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Graphics Adapter: ATI Mobility Radeon X2300 Graphics Driver: ati2dvag.dll Version: 6.14.10.6925 Supported Mode: 640x480x16 (60Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 640x480x16 (72Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 640x480x16 (75Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 640x480x16 (85Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 640x480x16 (90Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 640x480x16 (100Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 640x480x16 (120Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 640x480x16 (160Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 640x480x16 (200Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 800x600x16 (60Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 800x600x16 (70Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 800x600x16 (72Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 800x600x16 (75Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 800x600x16 (85Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 800x600x16 (90Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 800x600x16 (100Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 800x600x16 (120Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 800x600x16 (160Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 800x600x16 (200Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 1024x768x16 (60Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 1024x768x16 (70Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 1024x768x16 (72Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 1024x768x16 (75Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 1024x768x16 (85Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 1024x768x16 (90Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 1024x768x16 (100Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 1024x768x16 (120Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 1024x768x16 (150Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 1024x768x16 (160Hz) (565) Supported Mode: 1024x768x16 (200Hz) (565) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Testing game resolution (desktop res = 1280x742)
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Edulf Lord
Posts : 21 Join date : 2016-08-10 Age : 33 Location : Solhaven
| Subject: Re: [FIXED] [0.8.7] Game won't start Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:30 pm | |
| When using win 98 compatibility, switching to full screen makes the screen black again unfortunately.
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Edulf Lord
Posts : 21 Join date : 2016-08-10 Age : 33 Location : Solhaven
| Subject: Re: [FIXED] [0.8.7] Game won't start Sun Dec 25, 2016 3:28 pm | |
| Using a different laptop with newly installed xp sp3 to check if is indeed driver issue. It seems that on this computer I am not able to run the protectors either.
This time an error message came out.
---Error Signature--- AppName: theprotectors.exe AppVer: 0.8.7.0 ModName: ntdll.dll ModVer: 5.1.2600.5755 Offset: 00010fa6 ---
My original laptop did not report any error was probably because I disabled Error Reporting Service. | |
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Edulf Lord
Posts : 21 Join date : 2016-08-10 Age : 33 Location : Solhaven
| Subject: Re: [FIXED] [0.8.7] Game won't start Sun Dec 25, 2016 9:40 pm | |
| While solving this bug is still underway. I just wanna say Merry Christmas to everyone on the forum. Oh, and many thanks to the admins for your dedication in creating this mod. I always felt WB3 has potentials but the original as it is seems incomplete. | |
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Edulf Lord
Posts : 21 Join date : 2016-08-10 Age : 33 Location : Solhaven
| Subject: Re: [FIXED] [0.8.7] Game won't start Tue Dec 27, 2016 2:20 am | |
| I managed to finish a skirmish vs bots without any crash using windows 98 compatibility with 1024x768 16-bit res. But there seems to 3 problems I am aware of. Firstly, turning on full screen brings back the black screen issue. Secondly, despite having desktop resolution of 1024x768, the game itself only manage to run without any screen issues on it's default 800x600 res. Increasing the game res lead to black screen except this time small areas around my mouse pointer will reveal parts of the game screen. Lastly, the battle panel during my skirmish game took up nearly 1/2 of the game screen causing parts of building menu to be covered by the panel.
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